This whole thing started when I received a PM (private message) on the blog Facebook page, which is rare. It was from a gentlemen named Arnaud Leparmentier. He said he was a journalist for the French daily, Le Monde. He was writing to tell us he was going to be in KY the following Monday and Tuesday and could he come speak to us? I was totally skeptical and before even telling Bill, I looked him up. Turns out he was for real. I asked Bill what he thought, leading him to research the name also. He said I had nothing to lose by calling and seeing what he had to say, so I dialed the phone number that was included in the message.
Seemed Arnaud was doing an article about RVers and their lifestyle and he also mentioned Amazon. Somewhat hesitantly, I agreed to let him come the following Monday after work.
Interestingly, my friend, Tracy, had also been recently interviewed about the RV lifestyle and Amazon. Hers was a live segment for the Canadian “On The Money.” She did very well and it was so exciting for her and the whole RV community.
Still others, in our small Campbellsville, Kentucky, Amazon Camperforce community, were approached by a Japanese news channel, and NBC. Some interviewed, some opted not to.
I have no concrete basis for this next statement, other than a “gut feeling”, but I suspect the interest has been raised due to a book that was published recently, Nomad Land, Surviving America in the 21st Century, by Jennifer Bruder. In her book she talks about full-time RVers who are working at Amazon and other workamping gigs. Other workamping jobs include working the Sugar Beet harvest, selling Christmas trees, camphosting and the like.
The picture she paints isn’t pretty, in fact, it’s downright ugly. People being forced out of their homes for various reasons, forced to live in their “old and beat-up” RV’s, forced to work “less than” jobs – jobs no one else wants to do. I would never say the people she writes about don’t exist, I’m sure they do. They have my sympathies for their misfortune. Nomad Land’s lack of a balanced story can make it appear it is about all RVers, which is simply not true. The first clues that she was strictly going for sensational writing was this statement:
“a 61 year old ex-general contractor stows merchandise during the overnight shift at an Amazon warehouse, pushing a wheeled cart across for miles across the concrete floor. It’s mind-numbing work and she struggles to scan each item accurately, hoping to avoid getting fired.”
As a stower, you will push a wheeled cart across a concrete floor for miles. It isn’t as many miles as a “picker” will do, (my husband walked between 10 and 15 miles a day) but probably about 5 or even 6 miles a day. Is that a lot? I guess it is, but you are told that way before you agree to work there. I say “agree to work there” because as long as you acknowledge that you can manage the physical part of the job, you are offered the job. At that point, the only thing that could hold you back would be not passing a drug test or background check.
I will even say “It’s mind numbing work” is accurate. I was not a stower, but I know some who were, and it was no less boring than packing or picking. Mind numbing boring work. After two or three days, you have the job down pat and can probably do it in your sleep.
The next part, “she struggles to scan each item accurately” gives me pause. I will say again, I was not a stower, but I had to scan things and it isn’t rocket science, not even close. But, who knows, maybe the person she wrote about did struggle. If she struggled, it is sad because Amazon goes out of their way to make sure you are comfortable in doing your job. Generally, someone shadows you for the whole first week to make sure you are doing it right. Maybe this person didn’t have a good trainer. It’s possible.
The last part, “hoping to avoid getting fired” is where I have to really speak out. I have known many people who have worked as part of Camperforce in Campbellsville for YEARS and I have never heard of anyone getting fired. There are production standards, but they are so easy to meet it is almost ridiculous. Again, I was not a stower, but when I, without even trying, can consistently get 130%, I cannot imagine how someone can’t. Even days I was not having a good day, chatting with others, taking an extra bathroom break, etc. I still managed to get better than minimum production. Is it possible this person really didn’t “get it”? Yes, of course it is, but my point is, she would almost have to try to get fired. Camperforce was only expected to do 85% of regular blue badge employee production rates. The offered help at every step to keep you from getting low production. I seriously cannot imagine anyone on Camperforce being afraid of being fired. It just never happened.
So, Ms. Bruder’s book is full of this type of sensationalism. It isn’t hard to understand that people want to hear more about these poor people. I find it interesting that she has written this book to show how people working these workamping jobs are being exploited. They are “trudging back to their frigid campgrounds”, etc. Personally, I believe she is the one exploiting them. They are working an honest days work, earning their money, then moving on.
What she does not say is that there are most of us doing these workamping jobs by choice. We have sold our homes, bought our RV’s and hit the road because we WANT to. My daughter (with her Masters in English, and owner of a writing coaching business), says Ms. Bruder can write her book about whoever she wants and doesn’t need to talk about anyone else. Okay, I get it, that’s a valid point. I still can’t help but feel like when someone only tells one side of the story, it potentially makes it sound like the ONLY side of the story.
So, enter Mr. Leparmentier. He wanted to write about us and working at Amazon. Was I concerned he would not write what we said? Yes, a little. Was I concerned the picture he would paint in his article be another sensational half truth? Yes, a little. His newspaper, LeMonde, seemed reputable, on par with The Washington Post I was told. Bill and I decided to try and balance the story told in Nomad Land.
Arnaud arrived and quickly put us at ease. He wanted to hear our story, the why’s and how’s of living full-time in our 40′ 5th wheel, and why we did workamping, including Amazon. So, we told him our story. Below is a link to the article he wrote, in French, followed by an English translation.
LeMonde Article
We had gone to describe the world of Charles Dickens adapted to the twenty-first century. The exploitation of American pensioners, having for home only their caravan, by the giant of the online commerce Amazon. Most of the time, we have found wandering campers worthy of American road-movies, recalling the wandering in Alaska of the hero of Into the Wild (2007) or the tragic tramp of Thelma and Louise (1991).
Yet everything was reunited to mourn misery, in this lost land of Kentucky (north-east), the country of blue grass and bourbon whiskey, where pensioners spend the autumn in a mobile home and work for ten hours as laborers for Amazon. Their mission is to select, pack and ship the Christmas parcels which are then distributed to American households. For $ 11 an hour or 9.25 euros, the minimum wage is 7.25, with a dollar bonus for those who stay until the end: December 23. Campers flock in early fall with their house on wheels – in the United States we talk about a recreational vehicle (RV) – and settle on one of the campsites selected by Amazon. There are thousands in thirty states (Amazon increases its total number of more than 100,000 at the end of the year).
For example, at the Green River Resort in Campbellsville, a few hundred meters from a reservoir and a few miles from an Amazon site, Ed Janssen is crossed, with a big bearded smile and a cap on his bald head. How old are you ? « 80 years old ». What is the idea of working at Amazon? “I am in good health, I keep fit. I do not need it, but it’s nice to make more money ». This is the sixth year this Dutch emigrant half a century ago in America joined Amazon for the Christmas season. Prior to Kentucky, he had worked for Amazon in Nevada, Kansas, and Texas. Twelve years ago, a few years after his divorce, he dropped everything and took the road. “I hate living between four walls. ” The road, first motivation The road is the primary motivation of retired employees of Amazon.
Behind her sewing machine, Nikki Bitten, 57, and her sister Julie Criddle, 60, invite you to share coffee. Both divorced, they wanted to adventure. “We are Irish Gypsies,” joke these native Illinois. Julie was marked by the death of their mother, this winter, at 83 years old who told her before dying: “Let no one stop you from living your dream. ” Also, when his employer, an insurance company, offered him a small package to leave the company at the beginning of the year and retire, Julie did not hesitate. She sold the house she had bought twelve years earlier and paid her loan, and bought a used mobile home and a truck for $ 50,000. The adventure started with a trip to her children, then exploration of the American West, with the national parks of Yosemite (California), Yellowstone (Wyoming) and Glacier (Montana), where her sister has joined. And then, it was necessary to earn money. His sister Nikki needs it, she who did not want to sell her house: “I still have 900 dollars to repay a month. The two sisters have therefore applied at Amazon in Kentucky. Rotations of ten hours, five days a week. Exhausting. “We did not know it,” they sigh. Fortunately, they arrived in September, before the end of the year holidays. They were able to practice “hardening at work”, to use the terminology of Amazon. “By visiting the national parks, I was doing 10,000 steps a day. But at Amazon, it’s 26,000! Exclaims Julie Criddle. Nikki adds: “There is no way to prepare. What saved us was the campsite swimming pool which was still open. Like an “ice bath” for sore muscles. The two sisters chose to work at night. Like this, they get up at 10 o’clock in the morning and can enjoy the sun. No doubt they will not return to Amazon next year: “Friends have had a second season: they told us that six months at Amazon, it was too much,” said Nikki. The mobile home is a shambles, where we prepare the Christmas presents, displays the photos of the children and the States crossed. Julie sleeps there, but not Nikki, who has taken refuge in a tent. With its small electric heater, it ensures not to be cold. The campsite management is obviously not aware that one of her clients sleeps in the tent.
Among the « Campers », as they call themselves, there are the modest and the most prosperous. Bill and Kelly Murray are in the second group. They are in their early fifties, they hit the road in 2013. Bill, who ran a team of 150 people in a bottling company, found his work too stressful. He made his calculations: by selling everything, he could have a small fortune of a few hundred thousand dollars and afford a semi-retirement. He applied to Obamacare for health coverage at a reasonable price. With his wife, they bought a sumptuous recreational vehicle for $ 80,000. “Most people do this by choice. We do not do it because we are downgraded, “defends Kelly, who no longer wanted to maintain a house too big after the departure of his children, mow the lawn, pay local taxes. The hostess proudly visits the place: two sofas, a small dining table, a large screen, shower room, queen bed, American refrigerator, a fake fireplace, there is everything in this space of 32 meters square, or almost. “That’s right, I can not cook an 8 kg turkey! » It’s their world, they who did not even look for some greenery and parked on the campsite, right in front of Amazon. In reality, a simple parking. “Home is where you park”, proclaims the panel with a picture of their vehicle The Murray started their new life by joining a campers meeting in Tennessee to share experiences. Then, in 2016, after a winter spent in Florida, they headed north to Alaska. Five months to reach the Arctic state, as big as three times France “The United States is so vast that two, three weeks of vacation a year that is not enough,” says Kelly.Arrived in a national park south of ‘Anchorage, they worked – and visited – all summer … “A reliable work force” This fall, they joined Amazon, as they did in 2015 – a good way to make money, says Bill Murray, especially since camping costs nothing: water, electricity and electricity. the ground are supported by the company. “It’s very good to get in shape: I walk 10 miles a day and at the end I lost 7 kg and I’m better off,” says Bill. Of course, it’s boring and repetitive, but Amazon warns upstream. “Campers” are appreciated. “The Amazonians love us because the bonuses are increased during the peak season and our work increases their chance to get this bonus,” says Kelly Murray, who packages the packages and slides: “It’s crazy the number of adult toys that people buy ». Her husband continues: “We are very well received because we bring energy, enthusiasm. Campers are a very reliable work force: we are there every morning, there is no turnover ». They are all the more reliable as their mission is limited, and they are free at any moment to hit the road again. Amazon is pampering them. Employees rave about Thanksgiving afternoon being released – overtime worked the next day.
At the Green River campground, for lack of family, the “Campers” organized a party together. Everyone has brought something and “Amazon has provided turkey and bacon,” slips Joe Zihlman, former deputy sheriff of the Dallas suburbs. After thirty-six years of loyal service, this former Texan policeman has retired and the road. “Amazon treats its employees better than many people imagine,” he says. The small gestures maintain the good atmosphere: this week, there is a big screen TV to win per day for employees. On December 23, the Green River campground will close for the winter, and the “Campers” will be out. To celebrate Christmas with your family, then winter in the South. In Florida or Quartzsite, in the middle of the desert of Arizona, where tens of thousands of them converge at the end of January. Road-movies do not always finish well. On the Green River campground, we meet Maddy Yates. She does not work for Amazon. At 48 years old, disabled for seven years, she suffers from a disease close to multiple sclerosis, must undergo infusions twice a day. In front of her miserable caravan, she walks a dog, waiting for the return of his friend who works for Amazon. Solitude? “I was a single mother for nineteen years. I’m used to being alone. ” In the spring, this former social worker sold everything, left Indiana and taken Route 66. Head to Southern California. The tour began with beet harvesting in Minnesota, a doctor’s visit to Indiana, before landing at Amazon. “As I have little time to live, I want to be free and travel around the country. It’s beautiful. “
Our photos were taken a different day by Nathan Morgan, a freelance photographer hired by LeMonde. He came a couple of days before we were scheduled to leave, during our paid 5 hours off. He took some of us packing up, some looking at a map, some just of us. If you click the above link, you will see which made it into the magazine. Below are a few he sent us that I just liked. He and his wife and baby live in Nashville and he was very interested in our lifestyle, so we chatted awhile about it.
The whole experience was pretty amazing. As far as did Arnaud say what we said, I’d say he got a few of the details mixed up but he did get the gist of it. He did make us out to sound a lot better off (financially) than we actually are. I’m not sure I’d say our 5th wheel, while very nice, is “sumptuous”, but I suspect some got lost in translation. My daughter suggested we pay $.12 per word to have it properly translated, but we really didn’t want to spend +/- $200 on it. I don’t know which generic translator was used above, but Arnaud sent it to us.
How cool is this. You guys rock. Karen and I are going out to jump in the hot tub. When I get back I’m reading every word of the article.
Thanks! Do you speak/read French?
Great article! Gotta love the French and their translations, though.
Thanks! I think the translation was just an auto thing. I don’t believe a person did it.
He did a great job articulating why most of us are on the road, not because we have to but because we want to! It is also interesting how the article translated to english, had to read some sentences twice to get the full meaning.
Thanks for standing up for us poor deprived nomads!
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Thanks! I’d love it if someone who actually speaks/reads French would translate it, as I believe what he sent us was just an auto thing. When I checked that the link worked and opened the page, it asked me if I wanted it translated, so I don’t think an English/French person did it. That’s why Michelle wanted me to pay for it to be done, she said a lot was probably lost.
Very cool ☺ great post
Thanks Rick!
A lot of French gains a different “flavor” when being translated.. but that is true of all languages. In this context, you have to remember that Europe (his target audience) has a lot of winding a twisty roads and thus 40′ RV’s towed by comparatively large dually Ford P/U trucks would seem “sumptuous” to your average European. Road infrastructure in Europe was built long before it was in the US. It was built to accommodate vehicles not designed for the US highway system…. we simply have more room to spread out. Their roads simply cannot accommodate such a rig (but not impossible). And then there is the whole “bigger is better” mentality that exists in our US consumerist society. Typical large “caravans” as they are called over there are much smaller than what you have… thus “sumptuous” seems almost fitting.
On the whole, his article seems more balanced and fair than Bruder’s assessment. While she focussed on some more unsavory aspects of the RV life, the fact they were true, they were nonetheless, not accurate nor representative of the community as a whole. JMHO.
Can I get your autograph? You’re celebs now…. LOL
Thanks! And yes – an autograph – one night around a campfire perhaps?
Great write up of the experience Kelly and I am so glad you wrote about some of the misconceptions!
Thanks Tracy!
Sounds like you had a good time with it. Selling ones home and hitting the road to pursue dreams and destinations that most only dream of is the stuff that many hunger for, but never take the first step. You two have, so it only seems natural that your story commands attention. Great interview BTW!!
Thanks Eric!
Great post !!! Thanks for sharing. Brian assessment of the road infrastructure in Europe is extremely accurate. I lived in Germany for 4 years and aside from the autobahn I’d hesitate to consider anything bigger than a Class B for recreational camping. It was hard enough to navigate an Army M25A2 through the little towns.
Thanks for reading, Ken! Thanks for your service! We are hoping to get to Europe and see for ourselves one day!
Pretty awesome!! What a fun article.
We agree! Was a lot of fun to do!
I have lived in Europe twice and have to say your 5th wheel is “sumptuous” compared to their little “caravans”. Think VW Bus or Eurovan or Westfalia. And they just don’t understand the vastness, beauty and wilderness of the US unless they have been here and traveled around a lot, which is rare. In Europe there are towns and people everywhere you turn. The idea of what we do is confusing. I like to think the adventurous types took their genes and immigrated a couple generations ago, to avoid the crowds.
Great blog and congratulations on being famous in France!
Thanks Mary! I’m hoping to get to Europe, including France, and maybe try out one of their caravans!