CAMINO! Prep, Arrival and Costs

You guys may remember our friends, Steven & Linda of The Chouters. We’ve been besties and frequent travel partners since our first epic adventure in 2016, when we traveled to AK together. Our travels since have been in the US and abroad. They know we are always up for at least considering a new experience. Sometimes we can join them, sometimes not. An example of the “sometimes not” was when Linda invited me to join her and a group of 3 other ladies when they walked the Camino Portuguese a few years ago; I was intrigued, but very concerned about being too slow, plus the timing was just bad for me.

A bit of housekeeping info before I dig in: I will be dividing pics between this post and the next one. This one will have pics from the beginning of our trip and up to Valenca, our last place in Portugal. The next post will pick up in Tui and end in Santiago de Compostela. Then there will be a third post about the “reward” part of the journey. I hope you follow along!

At the airport waiting for our first of 3 flights.
Met up with Linda in Newark!
On time!

Back in summer 2024, they mentioned to us they were going to walk another Camino, which is defined, according to Google, as: “In Spanish, as a road, path, or way. It can refer to a literal physical path or a metaphorical route or journey. A famous example is the Camino de Santiago, a series of pilgrimage routes in Spain that lead to the cathedral of Santiago de Compostela.” There are many Camino’s in different countries, such as Portugal, France, etc.  This time they would be walking from Le Puy, France to St Jean Pied de Port, also France. In SJPdP, pilgrims can continue on to Santiago on the Camino Frances, but S&L had already done that. It would take them 40+ days. They asked us to join them. Bill really wanted to do it, but 40+ days is a LONG time. Linda suggested an alternate, we walk a shorter, more doable walk and meet up with them for the going to Paris part of their trip. Paris? Hell’s YES!

Arrival in Porto in front of the Cathedral
Inside the Cathedral
View from the cathedral.
beautiful fountain
Made some delish purchases at the market.
We ate from stands like this often.
Peacocks at Crystal Palace Gardens.
Bill and Linda both like this Portuguese sandwich, called a Francesinha. I tasted it but didn’t care much for it.
First of MANY gelatos – YUMMY!
Most restaurants offed outdoor dining.

Once we agreed to that, the planning began, and you guys already know how much I love planning! First thing was we decided to walk the Camino Portuguese as it’s mostly flat and shouldn’t take more than 2 to 2 1/2 weeks to walk. We then asked my BFF, (also named) Linda, and her partner, Rick, to join us. She and Bill had talked many times about multi-day hiking so it was just natural to include them, if they wanted. Linda Y took about 5 seconds to say “YES!” Rick didn’t feel like he was up to the walk, but agreed to meet us at the end in Santiago to be our cheerleader as we walked into the square in front of the cathedral, then continue on with the rest of the trip.

Heading out on Day 1! 8:08am
Walking along the Douro River. The fog took most of the day to lift.
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Once we got to the ocean, we walked on the boards.
Finally the fog lifted and we had sunshine! Crossing a bridge in Matosinhos.
End of Day 1 – we made it to Cabo do Mundo. View from our room.

Next we had to develop a route, as even the Camino Portuguese has a few variants. Linda Y spent a good bit of time reading up on this and came up with a great path, which includes a couple of days on the coast (Litorial), moving over to the Central, then switching to the Espiritual before returning to the Central, which would take us into Santiago. I appreciated the pace she laid out, 17 days. Most of the days were 10 – 12 miles, the longest one 15. Our “rest” day was 1 mile, the day we would cross the bridge from Valenca, Portugal into Tui, Spain.

Up and out at 7:30am on Day 2.
Loved walking with the ocean waves next to me. It’s one of my happy places.
Close to our first stop!
Our first public albergue – waiting for them to open. Vila do Conde. Notice the cobblestones? They are very hard to walk on.

We discussed the type of lodging we wanted to use. Each option had pluses and minuses. Hotels or AirBnB’s guaranteed us a private room and bath but were by far the most expensive. Private albergues (hostels) also guaranteed us a bed, may or may not be private room or bath, depending on price and location. The least expensive and the most “pilgrim oriented” would be the public albergues. This type of lodging was only available to pilgrims, and you needed to show your credential (more on that later) when checking in to stay there. They do not offer reservations, therefore no guaranteed bed, but instead are first come/first served, a concept we are familiar with since some places we stay in our RV are first come/first served. They are dormitory style, with large rooms filled with bunk beds, with varying degrees of privacy, even in the bathrooms (well, in the shower area anyway.) What we came up with was we would use a mix of all these options. I’ll mention here that a lot of people just show up at their starting place and “wing it.” We were not comfortable doing that, not entirely anyway.

We all got bottom bunks, Bill and I got a full-size.
Me explaining I want one.
Enjoying an adult bev with fellow pilgrims.
Common room in albergue.
Leaving Rates on Day 4
Lunch stops were usually at a church we would come across that had a covered outside place to sit.
Market in Barcelos – the one Linda Y found new underwear!
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The attic room in Barcelos. Bill counted 16 of us.
Beautiful views on the way to Lugar do Corgo.
Wonderful dinner and visiting with other pilgrims at Casa Fernanda.
YUMMY!
Our wonderful hostess Fernanda.

Exact dates needed to be decided on for flights and other transportation, so we consulted with Steven & Linda D and got those dates nailed down. Booking things began. Aside from flights, we would need to get train and bus tickets to get us from Santiago to St Jean Pied de Port, and then on to Paris! Since there was no direct train, we decided to take advantage of the stop over in Madrid and spend 2 nights there. We also included a night in Pamplona since the bus left fairly early in the morning. We then booked one night in SJPdP, which is where we would meet up with Steven & Linda D. Steven took care of the AirBnB in Paris. He also gave us the info about getting from SJPdP to Paris on the bullet train.

One of the many churches we passed.
On the way to Ponte de Lima. That’s Linda and Bill. You can tell this is the day Linda’s clothes didn’t dry as she has them in her laundry bag hanging on the back of her pack.
Beautiful Calla Lilies along the way. We saw them a lot just growing wild.
Crossing the bridge over the Lima River in Ponte de Lima.

There are a couple of well known places to stay along the Camino Portuguese, so Linda Y reserved them for us. After closer review of the “schedule”, we decided to add a couple additional reservations, for example the longer (15 mile) day I mentioned earlier. We didn’t want to arrive after such a long day and not have a guaranteed bed, especially since that town, Armenteira, didn’t have many options.

Linda Y enjoying her octopus with a glass of white wine in Ponte de Lima.
Fountain in Ponte de Lima.
Bill met this young man, named Spencer. He had a bunch of food allergies so he cooked his own food – then shared with whoever wanted some.
Ponte de Lima at night.

Once we made the decision to do this, we started training, and also making lists of the things we would need. We started walking a lot more regularly and over the course of 5 months, we added frequency, distance, and weight in our packs. Oh – did I forget to mention? We would be carrying EVERYTHING we would need in backpacks. You read that right. We would be filling our backpacks with our clothes (all of which needed to be purchased), toiletries, first aid, rain gear, “recovery shoes” (what you wear on your feet in the evening to let your feet breathe after being stuck in your trainers all day), sleep sack (public albergues MIGHT give you a paper sheet/pillowcase, private ones generally provide cotton but its common knowledge that they don’t necessarily wash them every day).

Leaving Ponte de Lima. This was probably the earliest we left at 5:56am. We wanted to beat the predicted rains that were supposed to start around 1pm.
This was a bit tricky and our very small flash lights (just a square (maybe 1 1/2 inches) of LED lights came in very handy. We heard later on that someone fell into the water with their pack on and thankfully had other pilgrims nearby to help her out since her pack was holding her down. Scary stuff!
Sun is coming up!

Gear

Bill and I headed to REI. The main reason is you can return/exchange gear (we were looking specifically for back packs) for any reason for up to a year. Longer story short, I exchanged my pack twice, while Bill did only once. While we were with Cindy & James, I got new sneakers, which I needed anyway. I initially thought I would just wear them to walk in. Turned out that was not a good idea. While training, I realized I could feel the smallest things under my feet since sneaker bottoms aren’t designed for rougher surfaces. I ended up with Topos trainers, which I loved. They have a huge comfy toe box, perfect for toes that swell as you walk 10+ miles per day for 17 days in a row. We ordered Altus rain ponchos (special ones that have an area for a backpack AND also had arms and zipped up in the front) online, which took about 6 weeks to get. Special shout-out to Cori and Greg, who re-mailed them to FL for us when they arrived like 2 days after we left. I also ordered Teva flip flops online and they took so long that I finally had to order a different pair. They still haven’t arrived, no idea what happened. Bill ordered us stainless steel clips and carabiners for us to attach things to the outside of our packs, as well as paracord to use as a clothesline when needed. Another thing Bill ordered us was Apple Tags, just in case. We each got quick dry towels. There was also small LED lights that easily attached to our packs. Honestly, when we got back to my Mom’s in early April it was like Christmas!

Along the way there were places, like this one, where people left mementos.
While this part of the path is right next to a major road, it didn’t last long before we were back more into the woods.
Much nicer walking here, for a little while anyway.
The skies were threatening rain, so we got out our rain gear.
These are the “shoe umbrella’s Linda Y made for us. They worked well and we were asked about them by other pilgrims.
Looking at this pic now, it does look kind of ominous.

We shopped in person, in REI, Cabelas/Bass Pro, Academy, etc. for clothes since I prefer to try things on. Why all new clothes you ask? Well, there are a couple of really good reasons: quick dry and weight. No cotton, not even underwear. Especially not socks, wool socks only. The only things I brought that weren’t new were my bras.

About half way up of the worst climb along the Camino Portuguese. It kicked my butt.
UGH!

Complete list of what went into my pack and how much it weighed and cost:

itemweight in poundscostitemweight in poundscost
pack Osprey 32L Mira2.4$220undies/sleep
wear/socks
1 pound 7.7oz$5 each undies
$8 each socks
$15 sleepwear
2 skorts1 pound 1.5oz$15 each
(on sale)
2 long sleeve button down shirts14oz$50 for both
(on sale!)
1 pair long pants4.5oz$302 short sleeve shirts/ 2 tank tops1 pound 1.1ozabout $12 each (on sale)
puffer jacket in sack1 pound 1oz$17 (on sale at Academy!)gators2.6oz$8
extra pair RX glasses4.3oz$0phone7.7oz
body wash/
shampoo/conditioner
13.5oznegligible since I took some from my larger pump size containersother toiletries:
pantyliners/
brush/nail file/tissues/
deoderant/
advil, etc
7.1ozhad most of this
toothbrush/
toothpaste
5.2oz$5Sea to Summit sleep sack13.4oz$50
towel (REI)11.3oz$18small purse for driver license/
passport/
camino credential/
credit cards/cash
5.3oz empty
6oz rest of stuff
$6 (clearance)
Teva flip flops6oz$55Altus rain poncho11oz$55
extra pillowcase/
travel pillowcase
3oz$5bottle of water w/hydration drinking tube1 pound 6oz$17
vitamins1 pound(see other column)TOTAL weight carried14 pounds 13.4oz$681 (just Kelly)

Keep in mind, this list is EVERYTHING I brought, so while the weight for all my clothes is included above, I was wearing one set of clothes so that weight was not in my pack at that time. I also carried 20oz bottle of water, that I refilled at every opportunity. I brought a total of 4 pair of undies, 2 bras, 4 pair of wool socks, 2 pair toe socks to wear with flip flops, 1 oversize t-shirt and 1 quick dry “boy shorts” for sleeping. The oversize t-shirt (which I purposely bought big) was very handy sometimes in the morning as I could get dressed under it if needed. My button down shirts were worn to keep sun off; we also had some cool breezy days, and it was nice to have something on my arms. The pants I brought were very thin and comfy, but just enough to wear on cooler mornings. Sometimes it warmed up enough that I was able to change into a skort at lunchtime. My puffer jacket was folded up into the travel size pillowcase I brought, and used as a squishy pillow. The full size pillowcase was used over whatever pillow cover was on the pillows we were given.

Albergue in Rubiaes. We all had bottom bunks that night.
We passed by many many vineyards. I don’t think we had a bad glass of wine the whole time.
The arrows and shells were easy to find and follow.

Last but never least I brought sticks. Well, trained with some before leaving, but then I bought new sticks at the Decathalon when we arrived in Porto. We had read that while some people get away with bringing their sticks (Linda Y did), most people end up donating theirs to the TSA. They were awkward to walk with at first, but once I figured it out they literally were my lifesavers on the way. It is common knowledge to people who use them that walking sticks (or poles as they are also called) can be very helpful in keeping weight off your legs. They help with stability, they help the user keep themselves balanced, especially on climbs and descents. According to Google, “studies have shown that the use of walking sticks can reduce the compressive force on the knees by up to 25%, allowing hikers to go further and longer.” I can attest, they helped me a lot.

Flowers were everywhere!
I loved that my rain poncho had a zipper and I could just hang it off my pack, ready to slip my arms back in if needed.

Route

StartEndMilesSlept AtNotes
PortoAirBnBReserved 2 nights/2 bed/ 1 bath
PortoCabo do Mundo10.6Casa VelhaReserved/
Private rooms and baths
Cabo do MundoVila do Conde10Santa ClaraPublic/FCFS
/dorm style
/shared bath
Vila do CondeRates8S Pedro de RatesPublic/FCFS/
dorm/shared bath
RatesBarcelos10Cidade de BarcelosPublic/FCFS/
dorm/shared bath
BarcelosLugar do Corgo12.4Casa da FernandaReserved/
Private room and bathroom/
Communal meals/music/
singing
BEST STAY
Lugar do CorgoPonte de Lima8.6MunicipalPublic/FCFS/
dorm/shared bath
Ponte de LimaRubiaes11.4MunicipalPublic/FCFS/
dorm/shared bath
RubiaesValenca10.3Residencial Portas do SolReserved/
Private “family” room/bath
ValencaTui1.7Ideas PeregrinasReserved/
4 bed (2 bunks) room with privacy curtain/shared co-ed bath
TuiPorrino11.2Xunta (municipal)Public/FCFS
PorrinoRedondela9.6Casa da Torre/ XuntaPublic/FCFS
RedondelaPontevedraBill/Linda 12.2
Kelly 7.5
Acola HostelReserved/
Private/ privacy curtains
PontevedraArmenteiraBill/Linda 13.2
Kelly 7
AirBnB3 bedrooms/2 bath, kitchen
ArmenteiraVilanova de ArousaBill/Linda 15
Kelly 7
A CorticelaReserved/ Private/ shared bath
Vilanova de ArousaPontecesures
Padron
Boat 16.8
walk 1.6
Xunta (municipal)Public/FCFS
PadronMilladoiro10.8Albergue MilladoiroPublic/FCFS/ privacy curtains/ switched with younger nice man after I fell
MilladoiroSantiago de Compostela4.5AirBnBReserved/ 2 bedroom/ 2 bath/kitchen

The distances I used above were from the books we bought prior to leaving. Linda Y bought one and I bought a different one. Their distances were all but exact. Bill and I both wore FitBit watches that showed very different distances, from each other as well as the books. Bill’s FitBit registered a total of 531,176 steps, or 31,246 steps average per day. These numbers show that he walked a lot more miles (240 vs 161) than the guide books or GoggleMaps shows, but that can somewhat be accounted for with the walking done in the evenings.

One of many murals we passed.

Accommodation/Food Costs

The public/municipal albergues were about €10 ($11.56) per night per person. Most of the time when checking into these type places, we were given paper’ish sheets/pillowcases. Sometimes there was a blanket, sometimes not. Always a pillow, but they were mostly flat and had to be folded in half. I brought myself a regular pillowcase to use over the paper’ish one. I also had brought a sleep sack/sleeping bag liner with me so I wouldn’t lay directly on the paper’ish sheet. We also had our own quick dry towels, since they were not provided at all.

One of the many places we stopped in for a snack or lunch.
Peaceful place with a nice bench to stop and rest if needed.

The private ones were all different, anywhere from 20 ($23.11) per night per person up to 30 ($34.67) per night per person. These would have regular sheets, but we still used our own pillow cases and sleep sacks because we had read that the beds were already made up, the sheets weren’t always washed every day. I know – yuck – but we were prepared. I think all the private ones we stayed at had blankets. Never towels though.

Part of the city of Valenca is walled.
Inside the walled area of Valenca. Our AirBnB is on the left.

AirBnB’s were higher yet the lower end being 88 ($101.69) for a room for the 3 of us, the most expensive was 130 ($150.22) per night for 4 of us. We would use their sheets, pillow cases, and towels.

View near where we ate dinner.
The waiter finished cooking our sausage by pouring hot broth over it.
Delicious pilgrim meal!
Leaving Valenca Portugal behind and heading to Tui Spain!

Food costs were reasonable. A latte and pastry in the morning was about 3.25 ($3.75) each. A sandwich (usually ham and cheese) was about 5 ($5.78) each. Dinners were either a pilgrim meal (pilgrim meal was usually a portion of meat, with maybe a small salad, rice or potato and fries, sometimes dessert), which were around €12, including a glass of wine or non-alcoholic drink; if ordering off the regular menu average was 25 ($28.89) each, including a glass of wine or beer and a dessert. If we didn’t have dessert where we ate dinner, we would stop for a gelato on the way to the albergue and that was between 1 and 2.50 ($1.16 – $2.89)

It was wonderful to sleep in and enjoy a leisurely breakfast before heading out.

The above numbers are for the Camino part of the trip, which will end in Santiago. Costs for the reward part of the trip were a good bit higher.

I just realized I didn’t tell you about the pilgrim credentials. While in Porto, we visited the Cathedral there and registered as pilgrims and were given a pilgrim passport a.k.a. credential. See pic below. Each day we walk we had to get at least 2 stamps in our passport. Generally one from where you spend the night and another from where you get lunch or something during the day. It basically proves you walked. It also allows you to stay in public/municipal albergues (they did all ask for them) and order pilgrim meals at restaurants that offer them. We were told we may be asked for them, and while we had them with us, we were never asked at a restaurant.

I know above I gave a brief, very simplified, look at what a day on the Camino looked like: wake up, walk, eat, walk, and so on, but I thought I would get into a little more detail, in case anyone wants to know. You’ll have to check back next time to read all about it!

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8 thoughts on “CAMINO! Prep, Arrival and Costs

  1. What an adventure! From prep to long days on the trail, you guys really handled your stuff 🙂 You two really look like pilgrims in that poncho pic.

    1. Thanks Jodee! It’s still truly amazing to me that I finished. Stay tuned for more!

  2. Love all the info ! Great job on the entire walk!! I’ve wanted to do a Camino for over 20 years. Maybe one day. We lived Porto and were still waiting to try one of those sandwiches. They keep escaping us:

    1. Thanks! Considering how you guys hike so much you could probably easily handle a longer more difficult one. This one is considered an easier one.

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